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Next meeting: Thursday, Dec. 3

Coming up: Friday Dec. 11 10:00am and 10:00pm Zhimin (first) and Hui will be giving their defenses at U Mass. Rooms will be listed outside the Math/Comp. Sci Dept office.

James is leaving for Columbia on Sunday Nov. 29th. James is giving a talk on Specify and Filtered Push there. He will be trying to convince them that they should make their data available for annotation by the wider community.

Zhimin is out Dec. 6-9th.

Paul is out Dec. 14-17th for AGA. He is giving a talk on Wednesday of that week.

Any bites on the ad for student programmer job? No.

Discussion about near-term funding for David. Research Experience for Undergraduates.

Comments about TDWG meeting in Montpellier.

Annotations? Paul and James have heard back about forming an interest group on annotations from Donald and Roger. A interest group needs a charter. James and Paul will work on that; they have a list of about ten people that are interested. An example task for the interest group would be an NSF-funded workshop.

Morphbank? The main concerns of Greg and Jim are to get Morphbank and Specify to work together somehow. How annotations will fit in to Specify that way is unclear (and FP). What we want to do is to be sure that our interface is generic enough to handle Morphbank situations and Specify situations.

Specify? They are out of money for funding for building Specify6 so they will be going in a somewhat different direction. Programming may involve images, labels and workflow. They put in a grant for federating Specify.

Edit? It was hard to generate interest for FP in the Edit group.

Paul mentions that there are three ways people have been talking about annotations:

  1. ALA's method of providing a tool for a user to view web pages with the user's own annotations attached (or maybe other ALA users, too)
  2. IPT's method of analyzing a user's dataset and sending QC messages about the data back to the user
  3. FP's method of having an analysis engine determine the recipient of a message/annotation

Bob mentions that the strength of FP is the generality of the data structure of the message

One of us needs to take a look at our code and determine what we have to do next in relation to the TDWG uuid request for comments. See this link.

How does what was learned at Montpellier affect future plans for FP?

Perhaps we should consider whether we should work on creating extensions to handle cases of potential members, or to flesh out the existing implementation, or to work on standards for annotation structure. For a lot of people who might have funding for us, "seeing is believing."

Zhimin wants to use Webwiket/Java server faces for developing simple web front ends for FP.

Paul would like to use HBase to store messages. He would like us to work on the persistence part of FP. We also need to discuss licensing issues.

Maureen would like to use Fedora to store data objects. She would like us to work on getting our code more easily distributable. She would like to see an updated "How to install the prototype" page. Installing_and_Running_the_Prototype

Taxon name matching: http://code.google.com/p/taxon-name-processing/wiki/TaxamatchInfo

David has been reading up on java and xml processing, and also at JSF and Wiket.